The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #77: October 17, 2005

The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #77: October 17, 2005

Content summary: Listeners’ comments discussion (more on, and from, the anonymous Publix blogger; loving the new FIR logo; transcribing show notes; proactive vs. reactive again); IABC’s new website; software to help eliminate jargon from writing; Technorati’s latest state of the blogosphere; Lee Hopkins’ report; The Conference Board Europe’s communications meeting; no podosphere PR yet; PR Week’s media trends to watch; Dan York’s report; upcoming FIR interviews and book reviews.

Show notes for October 17, 2005

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Welcome to For Immediate Release: The Hobson & Holtz Report, a 90-minute conversation recorded live from Amsterdam, The Netherlands, and Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.

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In this Edition:

Intro:

  • 00:28 Neville introduces the show; what’s in this edition; how to give your feedback; show notes
  • 01:56 Last Thursday’s show recorded on Wednesday - an unexpected change for some listeners
  • 03:31 A correction for Robin Good about Neville’s and Shel’s profession - what ‘ABC’ means

Listeners’ comments discussion:

  • 08:17 Robert French says Josh Hallett’s post on the Marcom blog about the anonymous Publix blogger is a good lesson for his PR students
  • 11:48 We hear from the anonymous Publix blogger who wants to clear up some misconceptions about his/her beliefs and anonymity
  • 18:35 Michael Bellina loves the new FIR logo and wants to help with the show anyway he can (thanks, Michael!)
  • 19:16 Chris Thilk also loves the new FIR logo, and the new place for show note links on The New PR Wiki
  • 19:47 Ted Graham asks if we’ve considered working with a transcription service to get full text show notes
  • 21:43 Sally Goetsch provides the definitive analysis of the ‘proactive’ word topic that’s been commented on in recent shows

News:

Features:

  • 47:27 From Our Correspondent Down Under: Lee Hopkins - on kahvi.org’s pop-up problem; Sir Daniel of Prius and Sir Eric of Spinfluence; personalising one’s laptop; SiteSell hosting and RSS integration; IABC Malaysia interviews me on podcasting; Berlo’s S-M-C-R model of communication - interactive or transactional process? and finally, Vegemite and why kiwis consume more of the stuff.
  • 56:12 Neville presented at a meeting in Germany last week of The Conference Board’s European Council on Corporate Communications - some thoughts and impressions
  • 62:13 Podosphere PR? Not yet, says Mike Manuel, and has a poll to prove it. When will podcasting get on the PR pitching radar?
  • 67:07 PR Week’s 10 media trends worth watching
  • 73:53 Dan York‘s Report (with recordings of sheep in Vermont) - on another Skype phone; other wiki projects from Wikimedia.org; loves the new FIR logo; the new way to read the blogosphere with Memeorandum; on unethical ways to boost search engine rankings; publicizing your RSS feed with FeedBurner’s PingShot; more on the ‘proactive’ word; and sheep do jump

Outro:

  • 82:14 Shel outros the show; Shel’s solo on this Thursday’s show as Neville’s speaking at a conference in Brussels; both Shel and Neville back together live as usual for next Monday’s show
  • 83:19 Upcoming FIR interviews - Jonathan Mast, Sedgwick CMS, on Monday October 24; Vicki Warker, Sprint, date being fixed
  • 84:38 Upcoming book reviews - The Virtual Handshake; Naked Conversations
  • 85:26 How to give your feedback; show notes
  • 86:22 Shel intros the podsafe music via Podshow.com - 10p Mix from Amplifico

FIR Show Notes links
Links for the blogs, individuals, companies and organizations we discussed or mentioned in the show are now posted to the FIR Show Links pages at The New PR Wiki. You can contribute - see the home page for info.

If you have comments or questions about this show, or suggestions for our future shows, email us at fircomments@gmail.com, or call the Comment Line at +1 206 984 0931. You can email your comments, questions and suggestions as MP3 file attachments, if you wish (max. 5Mb attachment, please!). We’ll be happy to see how we can include your audio contribution in a show.

So, until Thursday October 20…

Posted by neville on 10/17 at 11:58 AM

  1. Fantastic banner on the blog, chaps! Nice integration with the iPod logo.

    Cheers,
    Lee

    Posted by Lee  on  10/17  at  01:46 PM

  2. Hi, Shel and Neville.

    I see that while I don’t need to include the pronunciation guide in audio comments, the spelling guide might be important. (It’s Sallie with an “i-e.” My mother did that on purpose. I like it.)

    Anyway, you asked what I thought about the word “digitalization.” I don’t like it—it’s clunky and difficult to say—but I see why Iacono chose it. “Digitization” refers to the conversion of existing analog material (audio, photo, text) to digital form. In this case, I believe we’re talking about news publications shifting from print to digital output.

    Nevertheless, I don’t think the coinage is really necessary, and it’s not especially clever or euphonious. And it seems that the real topic here is a role-reversal for the print and online versions of newspapers, where the print version contains the analysis and opinion and the breaking news goes online.

    Now, how about a link to that etymological podcast Shel mentioned?

    Cheers,
    Sallie

    Posted by Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with "sketch")  on  10/18  at  05:19 PM

  3. Being more than a bit of a grammar/word geek myself, I had to do a lookup on “digitalization” and found to my amusement that the medical profession seems to have claimed the word first to refer to the administration of the drug digitalis for heart issues:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=digitalization

    However, the first entry from the American Heritage dictionary does also say “to digitize”.

    Ah, fun with words…
    Dan

    Posted by Dan York  on  10/19  at  03:53 AM

  4. Hi again.

    When writing my previous comment, I forgot that you’d asked what I thought about the word “disintermediation.” I think it’s a great word for a spelling bee, rather entertaining linguistically, and a perfectly dreadful piece of jargon. In fact, it’s a word at cross-purposes with itself. The point of disintermediation is simplification by means of removing the middleman. This ought to lead to more direct communication and fewer misunderstandings. (I’m trying to avoid the word “transparency,” which is entering the heinously-overused category.) So why use an obfuscatory word to describe that process? I enjoy polysyllabic words as much as the next philologist, but let’s not forget that the purpose of language is to communicate.

    Posted by Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with "sketch")  on  10/19  at  01:01 PM

  5. Oh Sallie,

    “I enjoy polysyllabic words as much as the next philologist”—- that is brilliant!!. I just love your work!

    Posted by Lee  on  10/19  at  02:53 PM

  6. G’day guys, great show again, as always.

    I had a thought about the show transcripts as mentioned by Ted.  You could open up the wiki to have listeners create the transcript.  Each could add a few extra lines so that noone has to spend hours doing it.  Just a thought.

    Also, Neville, not being an iABC member I can’t log in and test this, but from looking at the site, and from your description, it would seem that the iABC site isn’t actually remembering your login, your browser is.  If the site was remembering it, you shouldn’t need to login at all.  Internet Explorer, Firefox and most popular browsers will remember passwords of sites that you have been to and auto-fill the fields when you come back.

    As a user, you probably don’t care about who is providing you with the convenience, but I thought I’d mention it because the iABC site would probably benefit from actually implementing this feature.

    Anyway thanks for all the great work

    Posted by Glenn Slaven  on  10/20  at  05:05 AM

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