The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #161: August 7, 2006

The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #161: August 7, 2006

Content summary: Pimping for Podcast Awards votes; Neville’s traveling but Mitch Joel is filling in; One-Minute News: Chrysler’s Dr. Z campaign gets slammed and Chryler responds on its Firehouse blog, a videoblogger is jailed for contempt of court when he refuses to turn over his tape to a grand jury, citizen media is producing new stars of the web, instant and text messaging is actually improving kids’ language skills; Starwood debuts a new hotel brand in Second Life; the fallout over “The Long Tail” begins; how companies need to take risks and act small to succeed in the new-media space; a report from Lee Hopkins; blogs and podcasts are lead generation tactics for b-to-b marketers; listeners’ comments; the music; and more.

Show notes for August 7, 2006

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So, until Thursday, August 10…

Posted by shel on 08/07 at 09:55 AM

  1. Thanks for the opportunity to co-host guys. I had a great time and loved the conversation. I’d like to know what the listeners thought? Especially about the Agency.com and Second Life discussions.

    Best regards,

    Mitch Joel
    Twist Image and host of Six Pixels Of Separation - The Twist Image Podcast.

    Posted by Mitch Joel  on  08/08  at  04:23 AM

  2. Great job co-hosting, Mitch. I hope I can do as well when Shel and Neville finally get around to asking me. ;-)

    Regarding the Long Tail, there was an interesting piece in Slate about the way the theory applies to online magazines.

    As for online communication and the alleged ruination of the English language, it’s worth remembering that in Shakespeare’s day there were no standardized spellings for words. Correct and incorrect spelling, grammar, and punctuation are still by no means set in stone: look at the differences between British and American English.

    The works of the philosopher Aristotle are very difficult to read: opaque, awkward, badly-organized, rambling, and many of the other things bloggers are accused of being. There’s a good reason for this. None of Aristotle’s finished books have survived. All we have are his unedited lecture notes, which were never meant to be published as-is. We can’t take them as an indication of his literacy or fluency—he was known in antiquity as a good writer. The moral of the story? Don’t judge a blogger’s intellect by his Internet shorthand.

    Posted by Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with "sketch")  on  08/08  at  05:49 PM

  3. Great comments Sallie. I went over to Slate and will review the article tonight - thanks for the tip.

    As for our language - I completely agree. It really took me back to the huge backlash that ebonics took a few years ago.

    As a Canadian, I am constantly struggling with if the word is “honor” or “honour’ - particularly when I appear in court ;)

    Posted by Mitch Joel  on  08/09  at  09:33 AM

  4. On the subject of OPML. I think one reason that OPML is not very exciting is the dearth of tools to help you share your lists once you’ve got them created and posted.

    Shel mentioned the lack of a front end for OPML as being an issue. Well there is one front end that I know of right now that’s called Grazr.

    Grazr processes your OPML url and provides the user with a bit of code that allows you to place a navigable widget for your list on any web page. So this allows you to create a graphical representation of your OPML lists linking to the rss feeds or web page links of your choice.

    It’s only one tool but if it catches on then others are likely to follow.

    Posted by Rob Safuto  on  08/10  at  05:09 AM

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