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Tuesday, February 03, 2015
FIR Interview: Steve Rubel on Storytelling in the Age of Social News Consumption
Among the hundreds of thousands of news items distributed online every day, a precious few gain traction and spread across social networks (mostly Facebook, but even including “dark social” channels like messaging apps and email). Journalists are under increasing pressure to produce content people will share, and they are adopting practices they believe can increase the odds that their stories will lead to greater reach and more views. PR practitioners who understand these issues can tailor their outreach to editors and reporters who are being held accountable for the number of clicks their stories generate.
To better understand the characteristics of news that gets shared—and the techniques journalists are employing—Edelman partnered with two journalism-focused firms to study the issue. The 2015 Edelman Media Forecast, Storytelling in the Age of Social News Consumption, found (among other things) that more than 75% of journalists feel pressure to consider their story’s potential to get shared on social platforms, and to support thaat goal, they are infusing their stories with videos and images, brevity, localization, increased use of human voice, and a proximity to trending topics.
In this FIR interview, co-host Shel Holtz talks with longtime FIR friend Steve Rubel, Edelman’s Chief Content Strategist, about early results from the study and their implications for communicators.
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About our Conversation Partner
Steve Rubel is an executive vice president and Chief Content Strategist for Edelman, the world’s largest independent public relations firm. In this role, Steve studies the future of media and works across the firm’s practices and geographies to help clients unify their communications strategies across traditional, emerging, owned, and social channels.
In addition, Steve acts as a highly visible Edelman thought leader and writer on media, technology and digital culture. He speaks dozens of times each year around the world and appears frequently in the press. In addition he actively shares his observations and insights through his blog, his monthly Advertising Age column and on Twitter where he is followed by more than 60,000.
Steve has been named to several prestigious lists, including: PR Week’s 40 Under 40 and The Forbes.com Web Celeb 25.
Prior to joining Edelman in 2006, Steve worked for 15 years in a variety of marketing communications positions in corporate, non-profit and small/mid-sized PR firms.
You can reach Steve on Twitter at @SteveRubel.
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Monday, February 02, 2015
The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #793: February 2, 2015
Nominate FIR for 10th Annual People’s Podcast Awards; we could use iTunes reviews, too;
Quick News: People still share most of their content on Facebook, British Army sets up new brigade “to win in the Information Age”, Uber’s pricing model comes to the workplace, Battenhall PR firm launches WhatsApp information service; Ragan promo;
News That Fits: Microchipped employees pros and cons; Dan York’s Tech Report: Markdown language, Internet Society media relations opening, ICANN in Singapore; Seven scientific reasons to use emoticons in your business writing and social media; The Media Monitoring Minute with CustomScoop; Listener comments in audio, email and in the FIR Podcast Community on Google+; Online reputation is becoming more valuable than money or power says Michael Fertik; Igloo Software promo; The past week on the FIR Podcast Network; Is it time for mobile-only instead of mobile-first? A look at Snapchat’s Discover, and more;
Music from Keller Williams; and more.
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For Immediate Release: The Hobson and Holtz Report for February 2, 2014: A 96-minute podcast recorded live from Concord, California, USA, and Wokingham, Berkshire, England.
Links to websites, blog posts and other content we discuss in the show are posted as Delicious bookmarks to facilitate your connection with the discussions and sharing of that content.
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So, until Monday February 9…
Saturday, January 31, 2015
FIR Presents Inside PR 397: The boss leaves and where does that leave you?
What obligation do creative agency founders and owners owe to their employees? Gini Dietrich, Martin Waxman and I, all current or past agency owners, discuss this in the wake of a recent high profile creative company closing.
Teehan+Lax recently announced that the partners had accepted jobs at Facebook – and that Teehan would therefore be shutting its doors. Good for them. But what about the employees? Did the fact that dozens of creative people – the people who helped the partners realize their dream – were being left behind detract from the positives of this story? Are creative agencies simply the expressions of their principals? Or are they in fact the product of the entire team? And what does the move of agency principals inside a previously-client company mean about the viability of agencies in the era in which nimbleness must be married to creativity?
Gini, Martin and I kick around our views about the arc of agency life and the types of things that we and agency principals and agency owners should or may not consider when making the next move.
Martin points out that we have become used to employees moving frequently from job to job. Many creative people today base their happiness on the challenge of the projects they are working on today. What they did last week mattered last week, not this week. What their title is isn’t so important. Where they stand in the hierarchy isn’t their motivator. Challenging creative work drives them. And if they can’t get it where they are, they will quickly and without hesitation hop over to another company that offers that to them. And then they will move again after that.
So, should we be surprised if people who are founding and running creative agencies have the same approach to the world? Probably not. So, we shouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t the last time that agency principals proclaim, “We didn’t get into this to build a company to last. We got into it to be challenged. And the challenges are elsewhere. So, we’re shutting down our company to go and do something else.”
And good for them. But that still leaves the first question. What obligation do they have to the employees who believed in them and invested part of their own careers in the success of the founders’ dream?
Gini suggests that an employer’s obligation to the employees is real, but limited. “But you have to make decisions that are good for the business first, and for the founders second. Without the founders, there is no business. So, the founders have to take care of themselves. This is a difficult thing to do, particularly when you want to do what is best for employees.”
This leads to situations in which it is difficult to untangle what really happened in order to discern how an employer has treated employees. We may see the end result – people looking for jobs. But we cannot get the complete picture of the relationships between employer and employee. “There’s always three sides to the story,” says Gini. “Their side. Our side. And the truth somewhere in the middle.”
But at the end of the day, Gini believes, owners are entitled to put their interests ahead of their employees. “Sometimes you have to make a decision that’s not best for the employees. Sometimes you have to make a decision that’s best for you and your family.”
And that’s only half of today’s episode. In the back half, we move on to discuss the importance of communicating these changes clearly, honestly and transparently. We hope that you’ll listen to the episode and find something to think about here.
Context
If you want to get a fuller sense of the Teehan+Lax announcement and the conversation it occasioned, here’s a set of articles that provide an excellent jumping off point.
And Now, For Our Next Act, the Teehan+Lax partners announce that they are joining Facebook and shutting down their agency
David Crow reflects on the announcement and what it means for the partners, the local creative scene and the employees. Read the comments as well as the post to get a sense of the debates that followed in the wake of the announcement.
Brian Krogsgard throws attention on the fact that this isn’t good for everyone. What about the employees?
Jon Lay argues that that innovative design firms can still thrive.
Ev Williams reflects on when and why to sell your company.
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Thank you to the people behind Inside PR: Our theme music was created by Damon de Szegheo; Roger Dey is our announcer. Inside PR is produced by Kristine D’Arbelles and Ashlea LeCompte.
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Friday, January 30, 2015
FIR Interview: Tom Webster on Edison Research’s Share of Ear study and the rise of podcasting
Edison Research is in the process of releasing data from its Fall 2014 Share of Ear study, which takes a panel approach to assessing how much time Americans spend listening to the many categories of audio. The data produced a number of surprises, not least of which is a surge in podcast listening—more than 27 million hours consumed each day. Further, podcast listeners consume more podcasts than any other kind of audio.
Edison Research VP joins FIR co-host Shel Holtz to discuss the data and the implications for podcasting.

Additional links from the episode:
- The Marketing Companion, the podcast Tom co-hosts with Mark Schaefer
- Podcasting’s Share of Ear, Tom’s post on the Edison Research site
- Edison report on streaming audio consumption among teens
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About our Conversation Partner
Tom Webster is a specialist in consumer behavior who has spent some 20 years telling stories with numbers and trying to gain insights from data. He is Vice President of Strategy and Marketing for Edison Research. He is the principal author of a number of widely-cited studies in digital and social media, including The Social Habit, Twitter Users in America, and an annual series of studies and podcating. He is also the co-author of The Infinite Dial, the longest-running research series examining consumer usage of digital and traditional media in America.
Tom blogs at Brand Savant. You can connect with him on Twitter at @webby2001.
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Wednesday, January 28, 2015
FIR Interview: Creative Commons Sr. Fellow Mike Linksvayer on copyright and the value of information
In 2001, constitutional lawyer and professor Lawrence Lessig launched Creative Commons, a nonprofit that provided content publishers with an alternative the existing all-or-nothing copyrights. A Creative Commons license allows publishers to define what parts of their content others can share, and under what circumstances. (You are welcome to reuse FIR podcasts under a Creative Commons non-commercial sharealike license.)
From 2007 to 2012, Mike Linksvayer served as Vice President at Creative Common’s San Francisco headquarters, managing operations, finance, and technology, along with most of the staff. His LinkedIn profile notes that his role was more like the overall on-the-ground leader and Chief Operating Officer for the organization.
In this FIR interview, correspondent Harry Hawk interviews Linksvayer about Creative Commons, copyright issues in general, and the economic value of information in a free society.
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The complete 105-minute version of this interview is available from Harry’s blog, Talking About Everything.
About our Conversation Partner
Mike Linsvayer earned a B.A. in economics from the University of Illinois. Rather than diving into an econmics career, he worked as a software developer and consultant. In 2000, he co-founded Bitzi, an early open content/open data service.
He joined Creative Commons as Chief Technology Officer in 2003 where, according to the organization’s former executive director, he brought stability to the organization much as a drummer does to a band. He took over as VP in 2007.
In addition to his work at Creative Commons, Linksvayer encouraged NASA to make its data available to the public via APIs, and advocated that scientists and planetary societies employ Creative Commons licenses to distribute phpotos and other works in order to broaden public access to them.
Linksvayer continues to serve Creative Commons as a part-time Senior Fellow, and serves on the boards of several other organizations, including the Software Freedom Conservancy. He chairs the Open Definition Advisory Council.
His commitment to his vegan lifestyle was covered in a news story that was carried by a number of media outlets. He is also an active contributor to Wikipedia.
Linksvayer blogs occasionally. You can follow him on Twitter at @mlinksva.
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FIR Presents AMP Up Your Social Media #44: Brand Marketing in Social Media with Douglas Spencer
Douglas Spencer is a marketing and branding expert and is president at Spencer Brenneman, LLC. As a brand strategy consultant, he has 25 years of experience in branding and marketing. He ensures that brand strategies build businesses by connecting with customers and employees. Douglas recently joined AMP UP Your Social Media’s host Glenn Gaudet to discuss brand marketing on social media.
“Get a handle on who is representing you on social. Understand where your voice is being amplified - and by whom. Do they have what they need?”
Douglas discusses tips for effective brand marketing in social media:
- Strong brands are built on consistency. Tone of voice and messages in general demand consistency if they are to represent a strong brand. This includes employees out on their own time communicating with potential customers.
- Governance is important with social media. Everyone needs to not only be held accountable but also get pointed in the right direction - and this is up to the company to get their employees on the right track! Strong governance programs take into account the needs of the business as well as the needs of each individual function (sales, customer service, marketing, etc).
- Create employee advocacy programs. To be effective, blend these programs with other trainings. Employee advocacy comes naturally for many, so training on tone of voice, translations on social media, and other aspects are left to the brand policies to harness these intricacies.
- Tone of voice is important. With subtleties and intricacies, tone of voice can be a tricky part of training! Getting employees focused without feeling restricted can truly boost your social media brand efforts.
- Everything starts with a brand strategy. Understand not only what your brand IS but also what your brand WANTS to be! This will help you focus on a projection of yourself that you want to develop to connect with your ideal customer. Having everyone coming from the same place and going towards a common goal is essential.
About Douglas Spencer
Douglas is a graduate of Marietta College, specializing in journalism. He’s a board member to Fenway Health, AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, and Agency Spotter. You can find his dog popping up at his headquarters often on social media sites as well!
Douglas would love to hear from you! Chat with him on Twitter or connect with him on LinkedIn
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FIR on Higher Education #27: Professor Cynthia Bulik on How to Deliver Your Message to the Media

This link will take you to a terrific CBS media interview conducted by University of North Carolina Professor Cynthia Bulik, an expert on eating disorders. Impressively, she answers six different questions in a three-minute time period. She communicates all her key talking points and even gets her book mentioned. How does she accomplish this, and how can you do the same? On episode 27, Cynthia shares some of her best practice. Among her key points:
• “Research doesn’t do a whole lot if it just stays in the ivory tower.”
• “My goal is to take what I do and find the lowest common denominator of vocabulary so that the maximum number of people can understand it.”
• “A concise message is a clear message. You don’t want to have to go digging through to find what the kernel is. I want the kernel to be front and center.”
• “Get media training and do it often.”
• “Watch yourself. So many people will do an interview and then say ‘Oh I can’t watch or listen to that.’ But you are your best critic. Have your parents watch it, have your friends watch and have them give you honest feedback. Find someone who can tell you what you are doing wrong.”
If you want to improve in how you come across in media interviews, you won’t want to miss hearing Cynthia’s insights. Ditto if you are communicator looking to provide insights to your colleagues.
In our reports section, I share some thoughts on academics can avoid jargon, while technology correspondent Harry Hawk previews an interview he did with Dan Zaiontz, author of #FollowTheLeader, which highlights lessons in social media success from university presidents.
About Cynthia Bulik
Cynthia M. Bulik, Ph.D., FAED, is Distinguished Professor of Eating Disorders in the Department of Psychiatry in the School of Medicine at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where she is also Professor of Nutrition in the Gillings School of Global Public Health, and founding director of the UNC Center of Excellence for Eating Disorders. She is also Co-Director of the UNC Center for Psychiatric Genomics. Dr. Bulik is also professor of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm, Sweden. She is passionate about translating science for the public.
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About Your Host
Kevin Anselmo is the Founder and Principal of Experiential Communications, a consultancy focused on education. He helps brands within academia - whether individual or corporate - communicate with stakeholders. He also is the creator and instructor of the Media Training for Academics program.
Previously, Kevin was Director of Public Relations for Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business and prior to that managed the media relations for IMD Business School in Switzerland. In addition, he was an adjunct communications professor at Nyack College in New York.
Currently based in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, Kevin lived and worked in Switzerland for eight years and in Germany for two years. He has led public relations initiatives in various countries around the world.
Find Kevin on Twitter: @kevinanselmo.
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